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Episode 158 is live! This week, we talk with Kathryn Gates in Austin, TX. Kathryn is a psychotherapist and fitness specialist who works with adults, teens, couples and families. Kathryn’s mission is to support her clients in healing their pasts and embracing their creativity to find their unique life purpose. This is Kathryn’s second time as a guest on the Copeland Coaching Podcast!

On today’s episode, Kathryn shares:

  • The types of issues employees are the most frustrated with at work
  • How to decide if you’re in the wrong job — or the wrong workplace environment
  • How Kathryn was able to transition her own career from personal trainer to psychotherapist
  • How to reduce your stress at work

Listen and learn more! You can play the podcast here, or download it on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher.

To learn more about Kathryn, visit her website at You can also check out her new e-book, Do NOT See A Therapist: until you’ve done these 5 things, available in March on Amazon.

Thanks to everyone for listening! And, thank you to those who sent me questions. You can send me your questions to You can also send me questions via Twitter. I’m @CopelandCoach. And, on Facebook, I am Copeland Coaching.

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