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Episode 38 of the Copeland Coaching Podcast is now live!

This week, we talk with Dr. Ruby Payne, founder of aha! Process, author, speaker, publisher, and career educator in Corpus Christi, TX. Recognized internationally for A Framework for Understanding Poverty, her foundational book and workshop, Ruby has helped students and adults of all economic backgrounds achieve academic, professional, and personal success.

Ruby shares the hidden rules of class at work, how they impact you, and what you can do about them.

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